Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/18/2006 10:00 AM House FINANCE


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11:23:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 500                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act amending the principal  amount of bonds that may                                                                    
     be  issued by  the  Alaska  Industrial Development  and                                                                    
     Export  Authority  for  the purpose  of  financing  the                                                                    
     development of Hatcher Pass.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BILL  STOLTZE, SPONSOR, pointed out  that the                                                                    
Matanuska-Susitna (MatSu)  Borough has been working  with JL                                                                    
Properties, Inc.  and the Alaska Industrial  Development and                                                                    
Export Authority  (AIDEA) in examining  the potential  for a                                                                    
Hatcher Pass  Development Project.   HB  500 allows  for the                                                                    
next step to discuss financing of the project.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Provisions for HB 500 are to:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    Amend current language so that AIDEA may issue bonds                                                                     
     or provide other financing for the development of                                                                          
     Hatcher Pass, not just for the construction and                                                                            
     improvement of Phase 1 of a ski resort.                                                                                    
    Increase the principal amount of the bonds and other                                                                     
     financing AIDEA provides from $15 million to $25                                                                           
     million dollars.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze urged consideration of the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:25:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  GERMER, PROJECT  MANAGER,  HATCHER  PASS PROJECT,  JL                                                                    
PROPERITIES,  noted  that  HB   500  would  increase  Alaska                                                                    
Industrial  Development  Export Authority  (AIDEA)  existing                                                                    
authorization to  finance the Hatcher Pass  project from $15                                                                    
million dollars  to $25 million dollars.   AIDEA's financing                                                                    
can only be  made available after a  due diligence analysis.                                                                    
All regulatory and statutory requirements  must first be met                                                                    
and  in   addition,  the  AIDEA   Board  must   approve  the                                                                    
financing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Germer  provided historical  background on  the project.                                                                    
In  October  2003,  JL  Properties  responded  to  a  public                                                                    
solicitation  from the  MatSu Borough  to develop  an alpine                                                                    
and  Nordic  ski   venue.    Over  a   two-year  period,  JL                                                                    
Properties worked  with the Borough  and AIDEA to  develop a                                                                    
preliminary, conceptual & financial  plan that met the goals                                                                    
of  the Borough.   The  development plan  consists of  three                                                                    
pieces.  He referenced the handout.  (Copy on File).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:27:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Germer noted  the location  of the  various components.                                                                    
The alpine area would house  the regional ski resort, having                                                                    
a 2,300  capacity per day.   He detailed various  aspects of                                                                    
the resort.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:28:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Germer pointed  out the  residential area  involved, 26                                                                    
residential  development   pods  in  the  guidelines.     He                                                                    
discussed  the trail  system proposed  for  the project  and                                                                    
activities related to them.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:31:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Germer noted  the importance  that each  aspect of  the                                                                    
project be integrated  to succeed.  He  noted that financing                                                                    
by  AIDEA was  necessary for  the financial  success of  the                                                                    
project.   He advised  that each  entity would  complete its                                                                    
own  due  diligence before  the  project  could proceed  and                                                                    
hoped construction could begin by spring 2008.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze  asked  about  the compatibility  of  the                                                                    
project with  the adjacent mining  development.   Mr. Germer                                                                    
replied  that area  under consideration  is  3-4 miles  away                                                                    
from the mining spots.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:33:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly      inquired about other  owners.  Mr.                                                                    
Germer replied  that the principle  owners of  JL properties                                                                    
are Jonathan Rabini and Leonard Hyde.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked  about  land  ownership.    Mr.                                                                    
Germer   replied  the   MatSu  Borough   would  make   it  a                                                                    
public/private   partnership,   as   they  own   the   land.                                                                    
Responding   to   another   question  regarding   the   risk                                                                    
assessment, Mr. Germer affirmed  that AIDEA would complete a                                                                    
due  diligence analysis  along with  JL  Properties and  the                                                                    
MatSu Borough;  financial feasibility will be  determined by                                                                    
AIDEA.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:34:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm noted  the  road   on  the  map  through                                                                    
Hatcher Pass.   Mr.  Germer confirmed  there is  an existing                                                                    
lodge  on  the  road,  located  at a  spot  lower  than  the                                                                    
proposed project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JOHN DUFFY,  BOROUGH MANAGER,  MAT-SU BOROUGH,  testified in                                                                    
favor of the legislation.   He stated that the MatSu Borough                                                                    
is in  full support of  the project, stressing  the critical                                                                    
nature of  AIDEA's involvement in financing.   He reiterated                                                                    
that  it   would  be  a  public/private   partnership,  with                                                                    
property   obtained   through  the   municipal   entitlement                                                                    
program.   He noted that  they have utilized both  Borough &                                                                    
State funding in the past for certain projects.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Duffy continued, an economic  feasibility study has been                                                                    
completed,  conducted by  a private  firm in  San Francisco,                                                                    
who  confirmed  the project's  viability.    That firm  also                                                                    
completed an economic impact statement.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Duffy  addressed  the  number of  jobs  that  would  be                                                                    
created  through  the  project.     He  summarized  that  by                                                                    
supporting ADIEA's  involvement in  the project,  fulfills a                                                                    
long-term economic  development goal of the  Borough creates                                                                    
numerous jobs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:38:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly      asked  the  level  of  involvement                                                                    
from JL  Properties.  Mr.  Germer replied that  all proceeds                                                                    
from  development of  the project  would go  into a  general                                                                    
fund to  pay off all project  debt.  At that  point, profits                                                                    
would be  distributed equally  between JL  Properties, ADIEA                                                                    
and the Mat-Su Borough.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JIM  MCMILLAN,   DEPUTY  DIRECTOR   OF  CREDIT   &  BUSINESS                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT,  ALASKA   INDUSTRIAL  DEVELOPMENT   AND  EXPORT                                                                    
AUTHORITY,   (AIDEA),   ANCHORAGE,  responded   to   further                                                                    
question by  Representative Kelly,  outlining the  levels of                                                                    
debt retained by each entity.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    JL Properties @ $5 million dollars                                                                                       
    MatSu Borough @ $10 million dollars                                                                                      
    AIDEA up to $25 million dollars                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The initial  financing structure  concept is an  equity role                                                                    
for AIDEA,  along with  the other two  entities.   The final                                                                    
structure would  be based upon  due diligence  & feasibility                                                                    
reports.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:40:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly   asked  if   AIDEA  would   hold  the                                                                    
mortgage.     Mr.  McMillan   stressed  the   importance  of                                                                    
development rights in  the project.  He  noted that although                                                                    
the land  has intrinsic  value, the real  value will  be the                                                                    
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:41:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly      voiced  concern   regarding  other                                                                    
AIDEA financed  projects that have  not work.   Mr. McMillan                                                                    
said that  AIDEA has learned  from past, noting  the history                                                                    
of  the proposed  project.   He  stated  AIDEA supports  the                                                                    
legislation; the  bill does not  guarantee the  financing of                                                                    
the project.  He noted that  only after all issues have been                                                                    
examined and a finance  plan established, would financing be                                                                    
voted on.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:44:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze  expressed his concerns,  noting his role                                                                    
in facilitating discussion about  the potential project.  He                                                                    
noted that  in the past,  AIDEA might have been  forced into                                                                    
unsuccessful projects.   He indicated  his "comfort"  in the                                                                    
proposed process.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:45:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly      observed  that J&L  Properties had                                                                    
been  successful  in  other projects;  he  questioned  their                                                                    
amount of  equity in the project  @ $5 million dollars.   He                                                                    
worried that  AIDEA might be  left holding a  large mortgage                                                                    
on  the  project  and encouraged  an  appropriate  level  of                                                                    
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:46:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McMillan reiterated the long  history AIDEA has had with                                                                    
the  project.    He  noted the  worthwhile  aspects  of  the                                                                    
concept as  proposed by JL  Properties and the  success rate                                                                    
of their  company.   He agreed  that some  previous projects                                                                    
had not been successful  without such an integrative nature.                                                                    
AIDEA believes it is worthwhile to take the next steps.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:48:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch asked the  intended public process,                                                                    
noting concerns about development  projects and their impact                                                                    
on the habitat.   He questioned if  the legislation provides                                                                    
authority to create  bonds in advance of  the public comment                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:49:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Duffy affirmed  that an  extensive  public process  had                                                                    
been planned.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule      asked    about    the    projected                                                                    
completion  date.   Mr. McMillan  stated that  under AIDEA's                                                                    
statutes  for development  projects, any  project funded  in                                                                    
excess   of  $10   million  dollars,   requires  legislative                                                                    
authorization to  move forward.   He  added, in  addition to                                                                    
the MatSu  Borough public process,  AIDEA also has  a public                                                                    
process  period.   The  local  governing  body must  pass  a                                                                    
resolution consenting to the project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:51:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster  MOVED  to   REPORT  HB  500  out  of                                                                    
Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                                                                    
accompanying zero  note.  There  being NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  500   was  reported  out   of  Committee  with   a  "no"                                                                    
recommendation and with  new zero note by  the Department of                                                                    
Commerce, Community & Economic Development.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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